Wednesday, December 2, 2009

AAPL

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We think AAPL has gotten way overextended. Maybe it breaks down from here, with a significant and decisive break of both its moving average and trendline. Or maybe it manages to keep itself within the channel, wedging itself into the little triangle formed by the ascending trendline and the horizontal support created by its October and November highs. From there, of course it could break strongly to the upside. But there's no way of making either of those calls right now. Our warning on AAPL shares are more rooted in the company's size than anything else. AAPL is simply too large to keep growing at its current pace, and it has once again nearly maxed out how far it can comfortably push the upper limit of its valuation range.
Let's suppose you could accept that AAPL will grow by 20% annually for the next five years. We find this hard to believe, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. In that case, paying a P/E of 25 for the stock would be reasonable. Not a bargain by any stretch, but not outrageously expensive either. It would just be a fair P/E for the stock. Let's give AAPL the benefit of the doubt and calculate its current EPS using what they project to make for Dec 09. That would give AAPL an EPS of approx $6 per share. With a pricetag of $196, that gives AAPL a P/E of approx 33. Looking out about 12 months from today, AAPL is expected to have an EPS of $8 per share. If it stayed at today's price of $196, its P/E a year from now would be 25. So there you have it, a stock that should go sideways for the next 12 months, if indeed it wanted to return to a level where its price matched its value.
Considering the stock "should" be at its current price a year from now, there's little risk in buying or shorting it at these levels. It may go higher or lower, or maybe just sideways. But either way, at some point about a year from now, it'll be back at $200 again. We posted similar comments about AAPL's valuation last time it reached the $200 mark. So how do you profit from this? What we like to do is plant this seed in our head, and then watch the chart. If AAPL continues moving higher, our interest in shorting it increases. Perhaps in a month or two, it'll be trading on 2011's EPS. That would make shorting it a whole lot easier. If we thought it was high at $200, then it'll be a screaming short at $250... with a P/E of 42.
We don't actually short individual stocks, especially ones that are trading above an uptrending moving average. But it's still worth keeping tabs on where the four horsemen of tech are trading. They give you valuable insight into how rich the market is becoming. AAPL strengthens our thinking that the market itself is in its early stages of an overbought condition. Each step higher from here, the market is playing an increasingly dangerous game of musical chairs. When the music stops, there won't be any buyers left to fill the sell orders of those who want to take a seat on the sidelines.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

A different perspective:

John D. Kattar, CFA is Chief Investment Officer at Eastern Investment Advisors. Prior to joining Eastern in 2005, Mr. Kattar was Managing Partner at Ardent Asset Management, a hedge fund management and consulting firm. He has been Director of Growth Equities at Mellon Financial, Director of U.S. Equities at The Boston Company, and has also held senior investment positions at Phoenix Investment Partners and Baring Asset Management.

TWST: Would you tell us about some of the stocks you have bought over the past year that you feel are representative of your firm's investment approach?

Mr. Kattar: I'll take it by sector, starting with tech and energy, which I mentioned before are overweights. Apple (AAPL) is a name that we've owned for longer than a year, but we continue to like it a lot. This is obviously one of the best-managed tech companies with a powerful brand, great products and huge momentum. What is interesting is that the major growth drivers for this company - Mac and iPhone - are in markets where AAPL's addressable market dwarfs their current market share despite their huge success to date. Adjusted for their huge cash position, the stock is not horribly expensive and sells at a pretty significant discount to its growth rate.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Overweight-Your-Portfolio-twst-804551722.html?x=0&.v=1

Snotwheel said...

Thanks for the counter arguement. We're going to continue to watch AAPL and see if it starts to make a move into the nosebleed section. Only then would it be of interest as a potential short.
In the meantime, we're also keeping an eye on gold, which we would feel comfortable beginning to layer into a short position at about 130-135.
There are two interesting long term buys as well... AIXG and CREE. On a pullback, they'd make interesting multi-year bets, especially if every light bulb in the world needs to be changed:)
More on them later.

Anonymous said...

CREE????? I suggested that to readers of this blog many, many months ago. It has been on an uptrend for the last year and two months.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CREE#chart1:symbol=cree;range=1y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Anonymous said...

Just curious, Snot, but CREE has a very high P/E. Its forward P/E is about where you say you would start to short AAPL. CREE is already in the nosebleed space due to mo-mo. CREE is a small company by comparison and would be much more subject to huge fluctuations in price if it missed on earnings or forward looking guidance. Likewise, an upgrade or downgrade even by a single analyst could result in a double digit effect on a company like CREE whereas a big company like AAPL can absorb those things better, it seems to me. Going long or short CREE seems riskier than doing the same on AAPL.

Snotwheel said...

We know that CREE is not a new story, and we're not suggesting anyone buy it here. Along with AIXG, it's overvalued. But they're both worth keeping an eye on in the event that the market sells off again. We saw cracks in gold and AAPL today. These first cracks will probably be absorbed pretty quickly, as they'll be seen as buying opportunites. But they are significant nonetheless. We think that the market is due for a correction soon, and if these recent leaders are showing signs of slowing momo, it could be an omen for the broader market.

Secretsniper said...

The thing about apple is that it has the attention of the crowd. As the ordinary man in te street sees his stocks slowly recover over the last year he will be thinking baout going backinto the markets for the foirst time in a long time. When these guys want to buy back in they will be looking for low risk, safe bets and they will be wary of getting killed agian like they were last year. Apple for the ill informed looks like a safe bet. Popular product, cool innovations every year, trading at an all time high in a time when the markets have collapsed and hyped to death on top of it all. For these reasons Apple will continue to attract buyers that maybe anothe company with the same numbers wouldnt.

For my money, if you want a short look for trades depandent on the dollar or even better, dependant on Dubai and the dollar! Maybe US construction companies with projects in Dubai?

(Funny, the thought strikes me that i was calling on the dollar to collapse two years ago.. How long can this puppy hold out? Can i hold a short for two years?)

Anonymous said...

Snot, how do FXI and SEA look for low in the channel buys? How does TAN look, or its weakest components, for a high in the channel short? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Three more - PCU, PBR and FCX.